Disaster Den
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Disaster Den was an SCP: Secret Laboratory (or SCP:SL) community. It was best known for being the current maintainers of the US West official SCP:SL servers, as granted by Northwood Studios, the game's developers.[1] It was shutdown by the community's leadership on September 3, 2023.[2]
General Information | |
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Established | 2018[3] |
Owners | Kira (2018-2022)[4] Archer (2022-2023) |
Registered Members | 4,911[5] (as of July 12, 2022) |
Joining Process | Participation |
Social Media | |
Discord | Discord server |
Patreon | Patreon |
Member parodies
The Walking Den
The Walking Den (a play-on-words referencing the post-apocalyptic television series The Walking Dead) was a series of parody videos directed, edited, and produced by Archer. They featured the profile avatars of members from Disaster Den overlayed onto the faces of characters from various fictional universes, such as from the anime television series Fate/stay night and Attack on Titan. Some episodes were tied together with dialogue and plot, while others focused on the comedy of certain members being personified by characters and their situations.
The series was achieved through the use of key framing and the utilization of the audience's inability to understand spoken Japanese. For an episode with scripted dialogue, the original subtitles were replaced with the desired text.
The earliest mention of the series was on 4 October 2018 by Archer in the general channel of the Disaster Den Discord.[6] 2 spinoffs were produced by Archer, being Heaven's Den (referencing the anime film series Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel) and Fear the Walking Den (referencing the spin-off television series Fear the Walking Dead).
The episodes originally released on the YouTube channel Zabivodka, owned by Archer, but were taken down.[citation needed] A Google Drive folder containing all episodes for The Walking Den and it's spinoffs, out of order and unmarked, was made known on 31 December 2019.[7]
Season / Episode | Title | Runtime
(minutes) |
Link |
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Season 1 / Episode 3 | Nate VS Vesper | 2:49 | Link |
Season 3 / Episode 1 | Donald VS Archer | 5:09 | Link |
Season 3 / Episode 3 | Another Intro Parody | 1:31 | Link |
Season 4 / Episode 1 | TED's Obsession[8] | N/A | N/A |
Season 4 / Episode 2 | Vesper Goes Rogue | 2:21 | Link |
Season 4 / Episode 3[a] | TED's Death[9] | N/A | N/A |
Season 4 / Episode 3[a] | Good Admins[10] | N/A | N/A |
Season 4 / Episode 3[a] | The Furry War | 1:29 | Link |
Season 4 / Episode 4 | Project Peanut | 4:35 | Link |
Season 5 / Episode 1 | NSFW Box | 0:15 | Link |
Season 5 / Episode 2 | Bagel Really Leaves | 1:37 | Link |
Season 5 / Episode 3 | Admin Showdown[11] | N/A | N/A |
Season 5 / Episode 4 | Archer's Secret | 3:12 | Link |
Season 5 / Episode 5 | Jason's Death | 0:37 | Link |
Heaven's Den
Heaven's Den was a sequel to The Walking Den.
Episode | Title | Runtime
(minutes) |
Link |
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Episode 1 | Something Is Out There | 3:53 | Link |
Episode 2 | They're Summoned | 5:58 | Link |
Episode 3 | The Reveal | 3:01 | Link |
Episode 4 | ???[12] | N/A | N/A |
Fear the Walking Den
Fear the Walking Den was a sequel to Heaven's Den.
Episode | Title | Runtime
(minutes) |
Link |
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Episode 1 | They Return[13] | N/A | N/A |
Finances
The primary method of income was Patreon, encompassing a single US$2.50 tier. The total number of patrons and received income was made public. There are 98 patrons donating $136.4 per month as of September 30, 2023.[14]
History
Chronology of events
- May 10, 2018
- Kira announces the Discord server attained 500 members.[15]
- June 24
- Kira announces that one of the SCP:SL servers was granted US-WEST official status by Northwood Studios.[1]
- July 29
- Kira announces the Discord server attained 1,000 members.[16]
- September 24
- Trails - a former head administrator - announces that he is leaving, citing SCP:SL going stale and the community being "cancerous".[17]
- October 8
- Kira submits a ping to a generic role advertising a server run by their girlfriend. They submit another advertisement on October 9 with a ping to all server members.[18]
- December 11
- Kira advertises the Kurva Gaming Discord server, citing that "inner drama" caused them to lose a chunk of their member base.[19]
- January 10, 2019
- Kira announces that the results of a poll indicated that a NSFW channel would not be created.[20]
- January 17
- Kira sends an announcement asking certain members to stop "pretending to be furries/degenerates". The cited motivation for the announcement was due to the behavior causing prospective members to be dissuaded from joining. They note that this does not apply to people who are genuinely exhibiting the relevant behavior.[21]
- February 2
- Kira announces that the ability to post media in the server's
#general
channel is revoked and requires a separate permission that staff must assign.[22]
- April 7
- Kira announces the Discord server attained 2,500 members.[23]
- June 12
- Kira announces that a member named Face won a contest to design a Discord banner and animated logo. They allegedly won a $20 Steam gift card.[24]
- June 18
- Kira announces that until the traditional summer vacation period ends members with "freebie steam accounts"[b] will be prohibited from joining to curb an influx of hacking players.[25]
- July 24
- Kira sends out a staff application. This is notably the first time that staff were petitioned for in a public manner.[26] The application closed 2 days later on July 26.[27]
- December 7
- Kira announces the Discord server attained 3,500 members.[28]
- January 7, 2020
- Kira announces that a DDoS attack against Disaster Den was repelled with little effort.[29]
- March 20
- Kira announces that due to consistent complaints of toxicity, and bad actors taking advantage of leverage in the rules, that they were updated so as to "tight up the way [Disaster Den] handle[s] things".[30]
- April 7
- Kira announces the Discord server attained 4,000 members.[31]
- May 4, 2021
- Kira announces that they are taking a hiatus due to dissatisfaction with how members handle issues regarding Disaster Den.[32] They return from this hiatus 5 days later on May 9.[33]
- May 5
- Hynx announces that the role of administrator is splitting so that there will be administrators specifically for Discord and SCP:SL, rather than administrators acting the same across all services.[34]
- August 28, 2022
- Archer announces the Discord server attained 5,000 members.[35]
- September 16
- Kira announces that he is stepping down and transferring ownership to Archer.[4]
- April 4, 2023
- Archer announces that they are taking a hiatus due to a family member passing away.[36]
- September 3
- Archer announces the shutdown of Disaster Den, citing that the lives of leadership staff had become too busy to maintain it's upkeep - among "other reasons".[2]
- September 12
- Archer sends an announcement requesting the community to read a Google Doc titled "End of Disaster Den SCP SL".[37]
Controversy
2020 rule change on slurs
On October 10, 2020 Kira announced that the rules governing usage of slurs were changed. Previously, the usage of "racial, homophobic, transphobic or antisemitic slurs" were only disallowed if used in a derogatory manner. The change made the usage of such slurs, regardless of context, disallowed.[38]
The cited reason for the change was to address users who would use the "in a derogatory manner" provision to justify the usage of the slurs "all the time". Vesper would later clarify that slurs were never intended to be used as frequently as they were. The offenders leaned on the leniency of staff members who would not take action since the usage was not derogatory, resulting in the slurs becoming more casual than staff desired.[39]
Kira would comment in the general channel later that morning that freedom of speech as a concept was important to them, but that they remained firm in their decision, not wishing a minority to cause prospective members to "shy away".[40]
On October 14, Kira angrily stated in the general channel that members FreedomEagle and Slime were the "root of [the] problem", citing that they were "ruining the rule for everyone else".[41] Bovix, an administrator, commented that they disagreed.[42] Kira threatened to demote Bovix from staff if they did not "stop fucking talking",[43] to which Bovix took offense, stating that Kira's reaction to their statement was unproportionate and disrespectful.[44][45] Bovix would later express understanding, commenting that Kira was angry, and that they had faith Kira would not action the threat.[46] Kira did not comment on the incident further.
On October 30, a new announcement by Kira declared that the rule change was mostly reversed. It was identical to what it was prior with an additional provision that "excessive" use was also disallowed. Kira clarified that they were changing tact on how they wished to handle the issue, changing from blanket banning slurs to simply removing the problematic members.
As a result, the members Slime, FreedomEagle, SpaceCat, Ted, and DK Crab were declared by Kira to be permanently banned.[47]
2020 pedophile
On November 13, 2020 Kira made an announcement that a community member named Anim had been banned permanently from the Discord. They went on to assert that the staff team had received evidence that Anim solicited sexually explicit photographs and messages from members that were underage, and so labeled them a pedophile.[48]
2 members, 1 being an administrator, commented that the reveal was shocking as Anim was close friends of theirs.[49][50]
Another member criticized the announcement as getting too many people involved in the event.[51] Kira responded, stating they felt it was necessary to state their position on the behavior, to avoid the perception they were protecting Anim, and to bring awareness that people can always go to staff for such issues.[52]
2023 Northwood influence on shutdown
On September 12, 2023 Archer made a follow up announcement to the one made on September 3 regarding the community's servers shutting down. The message contained a link to a Google Doc titled "End of Disaster Den SCP SL". The document went on to state that while the lives of leadership staff becoming busier was a contributing factor to the shutdown,[2] the main reason for the shutdown was "due to [Disaster Den's] relations with Northwood [Studios] as a company".[53]
The document proceeded to detail a variety of alleged behavior that Disaster Den took issue with.
Official Server Agreement
The first grievance expressed was the adoption of the "Official Server Agreement" (OSR) by Northwood in 2021. Disaster Den stated that the rules set forth by Northwood for official servers[c] existed "for the sake of it" and that they clashed with the community's ideals, which resulted in various Disaster Den staff members resigning in protest.[53]
A representative of Northwood was stated to have organized a meeting for hosts of official servers to discuss the OSR. The representative was stated to have communicated with the hosts and "[found] the middle ground on a few situations", which Disaster Den viewed favorably.[53]
The document then alleges that Hubert Moszka - the owner of Northwood Studios - overruled the aforementioned representative, claiming they acted without sufficient authority. Hubert's response was stated to have been "everything discussed was being shot down/reverted". Disaster Den characterized this as their "hands being tied" due to a majority of their player base only playing on the official servers. They further alleged that Hubert reiterated his stance repeatedly that those who disagreed with the OSR had no recourse but to leave the program.[53]
The document would later specify 2 regulations from the OSR that Disaster Den disliked. The first was that each official server could not have more than 25 player slots, which caused Disaster Den to remove reserved slots as a form of monetization, a stated "integral part of the upkeep". The second was that the OSR prohibited gameplay altering plugins.[53][54]
Aggressive behavior
Northwood was alleged to have acted aggressively towards official hosts. The document asserted that Northwood would frequently "threaten official warnings" resulting in a "narrative [where] [official hosts] have to treat officials [sic] as some sort of privilege". The relationship between Northwood and official hosts was characterized as toxic.[53]
Notice of updates
Northwood was alleged to provide "very short notice" to communities when an update to the game was releasing. A particular instance cited was the release of 12.0, which went public 3 days before Christmas.[55] The development team was stated to have immediately gone on holiday, and Disaster Den stated that they were incapable of using plugins "essential to... upkeep" for a week. 13.0 and beyond were stated to have broken other core plugins, such as the queue management and banning systems, with all mentioned updates coming with "little forewarning".[53]
Studio manager comment
Shortly after the announcement from Archer on September 12, discussion regarding the shutdown started on the official SCP:SL Discord in the #scp-discussion channel.
Soon after, Northwood studio manager The Lord of Baguettes replied to the conversation, which was to explain what the OSR was, that communities with official servers may run community servers adjacently, and that they can opt-out of the program at any time.[56] Shelter stated that for Disaster Den in particular, due to their player base mostly being those that played on the official servers, the loss of the official servers was the same as the community dying.[57] The Lord of Baguettes replied that while official servers have high turnover, the size of their Discord servers showed a strong community base, and then cited an anecdote of how another community left the official program and had participation increase.[58] Their final comment reiterated that, ultimately, those in the program may leave it if they are dissatisfied, and that the stated goal of the program is for the servers to align with what Game Design Team considers a vanilla experience.[59]
There has been no additional comment regarding Disaster Den's shut down by a member of Northwood staff.
Footnotes
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 Each message in Discord announcing the episode from Archer stated they were Episode 3.
- ↑ It was later clarified that the technical restriction from joining affected any Steam account that had not spent at least $5.
- ↑ An "official" server is a server endorsed publicly on the SCP:SL dedicated Discord server. They are placed on the top of the in-game server list.
References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 Kira (24 June 2018). DisasterDen4.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-14.
... we've just been granted official status
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 Archer (3 September 2023). DisasterDen53.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-09-30.
... seeing how busy most of us are and for other reasons which will be explained in the coming weeks, I am formally announcing the permanent shut down of our SCP:SL servers.
- ↑ System (3 March 2018). DisasterDen2.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-14.
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 Kira (16 September 2022). DisasterDen3.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-14.
- ↑ SCP-066 (bot) (12 July 2022). DisasterDen1.png. #bot-commands [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-13.
- ↑ Archer (4 October 2018). DisasterDen40.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-06.
Season 1 of my 'The Walking Den' memes is over :)
- ↑ Archer (31 December 2019). DisasterDen33.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
Here is every single episode/meme of the Walking Den ive made in my little series
- ↑ Archer (2 November 2018). DisasterDen34.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
- ↑ Archer (15 November 2018). DisasterDen35.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
- ↑ Archer (2 December 2018). DisasterDen36.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
- ↑ Archer (23 January 2019). DisasterDen37.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
- ↑ Archer (11 November 2019). DisasterDen38.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
- ↑ Archer (20 May 2019). DisasterDen39.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
- ↑ "Disaster Den Gaming". Patreon. Archived from the original on 30 September 2023. Retrieved 2023-09-30.
- ↑ Kira (10 May 2018). DisasterDen6.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
... wanted to thank everybody for being AMAZING and sticking with us to 500 members!
- ↑ Kira (7 July 2018). DisasterDen8.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
We just hit 1,000 members!
- ↑ Trails (24 September 2018). DisasterDen9.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
Anyways, with the game dying, I've more or lost [sic] any reason to be in here
- ↑ Kira (8 October 2018). DisasterDen10.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
@ping Yo lads, my gf's server "Painted Prison" on minecraft just released.
- ↑ Kira (11 December 2018). DisasterDen11.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
I'm going to shill someone else's discord... Kurva gaming is a discord run by @Alby
- ↑ Kira (10 January 2019). DisasterDen12.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
As per the results of the recent poll we will not be adding an NSFW channel
- ↑ Kira (17 January 2019). DisasterDen13.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
... if you guys could knock it off with the pretending to be furries/degenerates... I'd appreciate it
- ↑ Kira (2 February 2019). DisasterDen14.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
Instead you will now have to request a staff member for the @Image Perms role
- ↑ Kira (7 April 2019). DisasterDen15.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
... thank everybody for being AMAZING and helping us get to 2500 members.
- ↑ Kira (12 June 2019). DisasterDen16.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
The winner of both the banner and animated logo contest is @Face
- ↑ Kira (18 June 2019). DisasterDen17.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
Until summer vacation is over... I've put a plugin in place that will disallow people with freebie steam accounts from joining
- ↑ Kira (24 July 2019). DisasterDen18.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
Hey everybody, for the first time in basically ever, we're opening up public staff applications.
- ↑ Kira (26 July 2019). DisasterDen19.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
Staff applications are now closed
- ↑ Kira (7 December 2019). DisasterDen20.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
Just wanna say thanks real quick guys cause we hit 3500 members.
- ↑ Kira (7 January 2020). DisasterDen21.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
I just want you all to be aware that our DDoS mitigation ate that shit for breakfast
- ↑ Kira (20 March 2020). DisasterDen22.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
... a select few bad actors take advantage of my leniency in rules. Due to this we're now going to have to tighten up the way we handle things a little.
- ↑ Kira (7 April 2020). DisasterDen23.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
Hey guys, we finally hit 4k members.
- ↑ Kira (4 May 2021). DisasterDen27.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
I'll be taking a hiatus from doing anything here for awhile... It is incredibly demoralizing... that my dms remain completely empty and instead people do things like organize mass-leavings to really show it to me.
- ↑ Kira (9 May 2021). DisasterDen29.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
Just wanna say I'm back in and ready to go once more.
- ↑ Hynx (5 May 2021). DisasterDen28.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
There are now specific admins for specific jobs, this being @Discord Admin and @SCP Admin.
- ↑ Archer (28 August 2022). DisasterDen30.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
Hey everyone, we hit our big goal of 5k members this week!
- ↑ Archer (4 April 2023). DisasterDen31.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
I'll be going on Hiatus for a while, a family member has passed away just a few minutes ago.
- ↑ Archer (12 September 2023). DisasterDen54.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-09-30.
Please take a moment to read this. Thank you.
- ↑ Kira (10 October 2020). DisasterDen24.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
- ↑ Vesper (10 October 2020). DisasterDen42.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
THIS RULE was made because people were abusing the leniency of staff members... These words were not supposed to be used as often
- ↑ Kira (10 October 2020). DisasterDen41.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
Freedom of speech is paramount to me
- ↑ Kira (14 October 2020). DisasterDen43.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
You and fucking Slime are the root of this whole problem
- ↑ Bovix (14 October 2020). DisasterDen44.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
Idk about that kira
- ↑ Kira (14 October 2020). DisasterDen45.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
@Bovix Honestly can you stop fucking talking before I demote you?
- ↑ Bovix (14 October 2020). DisasterDen46.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
@Kira Sorry what was that? You're threatening to demote me?
- ↑ Bovix (14 October 2020). DisasterDen47.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
@Kira Honestly no matter what I say about this topic, there is no reason to threaten to demote me... Just plain disrespectful to me.
- ↑ Bovix (14 October 2020). DisasterDen48.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
He won't demote me... He's just pissed is all
- ↑ Kira (30 October 2020). DisasterDen25.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
- ↑ Kira (13 November 2020). DisasterDen26.png. #news-updates [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-15.
We have collected direct evidence that he is a pedophile that has engaged in the grooming of someone... younger than him in our discord
- ↑ Face (13 November 2020). DisasterDen51.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
Anim was my one of my [sic] close friends
- ↑ Bovix (13 November 2020). DisasterDen52.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
dude... anima is literally one of my best friends..
- ↑ Temporary (13 November 2020). DisasterDen49.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
but I just feel like the @ everyone probably got like... way too many people involved
- ↑ Kira (13 November 2020). DisasterDen50.png. #general [Disaster Den]. Retrieved 2023-07-17.
@Temporary I feel like it's necessary to state our position as a server... As well as make people aware that they can always come to us.
- ↑ 53.0 53.1 53.2 53.3 53.4 53.5 53.6 Archer (12 September 2023). "End of Disaster Den SCP SL" (Document). Disaster Den.
- ↑ TrueWhiteLion (15 December 2022). "Official Server Agreement" (Document). Northwood Studios.
- ↑ Jamintheinfinite (26 January 2023). "Updates/12.0.0". SCP: Secret Laboratory English Official Wiki. Archived from the original on 20 July 2023. Retrieved 2023-10-01.
- ↑ The Lord of Baguettes (12 September 2023). DisasterDen55.png. #scp-discussion [SCP: Secret Laboratory]. Retrieved 2023-10-01.
- ↑ Shelter (12 September 2023). DisasterDen56.png. #scp-discussion [SCP: Secret Laboratory]. Retrieved 2023-10-01.
The issue was that without official status, there was no guarantee DDen would be able to keep a reasonable player count, therefore killing it
- ↑ The Lord of Baguettes (12 September 2023). DisasterDen57.png. #scp-discussion [SCP: Secret Laboratory]. Retrieved 2023-10-01.
Official servers tend to see lots of turnover rate, but the size of their community discords tend to imply a strong community presence... redline left the official program for some time and actually grew in playerbase iirc
- ↑ The Lord of Baguettes (12 September 2023). DisasterDen58.png. #scp-discussion [SCP: Secret Laboratory]. Retrieved 2023-10-01.
The reality of it is that partners can leave the program if they are unhappy at any time, or can stay in it and run community servers how they wish. The stated goal of the OSR is to allign with what our game design team considers to be "vanilla" gameplay (i think rust uses a similar system)?