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====2023 Northwood influence on shutdown==== On September 12, 2023 Archer made a follow up announcement to the one made on September 3 regarding the community's servers shutting down. The message contained a link to a Google Doc titled "End of Disaster Den SCP SL". The document went on to state that while the lives of leadership staff becoming busier was a contributing factor to the shutdown,<ref name=":1" /> the main reason for the shutdown was "due to [Disaster Den's] relations with Northwood [Studios] as a company".<ref name=":3" /> The document proceeded to detail a variety of alleged behavior that Disaster Den took issue with. The first grievance expressed was the adoption of the "Official Server Agreement" (OSR) by Northwood in 2021. Disaster Den stated that the rules set forth by Northwood for official servers<ref group="Footnote" name=":1" /> existed "for the sake of it" and that they clashed with the community's ideals, which resulted in various Disaster Den staff members resigning in protest.<ref name=":3" /> A representative of Northwood was stated to have organized a meeting for hosts of official servers to discuss the OSR. The representative was stated to have communicated with the hosts and "[found] the middle ground on a few situations", which Disaster Den viewed favorably.<ref name=":3" /> The document then alleges that Hubert Moszka - the owner of Northwood Studios - overruled the aforementioned representative, claiming they acted without sufficient authority. Hubert's response was stated to have been "everything discussed was being shot down/reverted". Disaster Den characterized this as their "hands being tied" due to a majority of their player base only playing on the official servers. They further alleged that Hubert reiterated his stance repeatedly that those who disagreed with the OSR had no recourse but to leave the program.<ref name=":3">{{cite document|last=Archer|date=12 September 2023 |title=[[:File:End of Disaster Den SCP SL.pdf|End of Disaster Den SCP SL]]|publisher=Disaster Den}}</ref> The document would later specify 2 regulations from the OSR that Disaster Den found objectionable. The first was that each official server could not have more than 25 player slots, which caused Disaster Den to remove reserved slots as a form of monetization, a stated "integral part of the upkeep". The second was that the OSR prohibited gameplay altering plugins.<ref name=":3" /><ref>{{cite document |last=TrueWhiteLion|date=15 December 2022 |title=[[:File:Official Server Agreement.pdf|Official Server Agreement]]|publisher=Northwood Studios}}</ref> Northwood was alleged to have acted aggressively towards official hosts. The document asserted that Northwood would frequently "threaten official warnings" resulting in a "narrative [where] [official hosts] have to treat officials{{Sic}} as some sort of privilege". The relationship between Northwood and official hosts was characterized as toxic.<ref name=":3" /> Northwood was alleged to provide "very short notice" to communities when an update to the game was releasing. A particular instance cited was the release of 12.0, which went public 3 days before Christmas.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Jamintheinfinite |date=26 January 2023 |title=Updates/12.0.0 |url=https://en.scpslgame.com/index.php?title=Updates/12.0.0 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230720002333/https://en.scpslgame.com/index.php?title=Updates/12.0.0 |archive-date=20 July 2023 |access-date=2023-10-01 |website=SCP: Secret Laboratory English Official Wiki}}</ref> The development team was stated to have immediately gone on holiday, and Disaster Den stated that they were incapable of using plugins "essential to... upkeep" for a week. 13.0 and beyond were stated to have broken other core plugins, such as the queue management and banning systems, with all mentioned updates coming with "little forewarning".<ref name=":3" /> Shortly after the announcement from Archer on September 12, discussion regarding the shutdown started on the official SCP:SL Discord in the <code>#scp-discussion</code> channel. Soon after, Northwood studio manager The Lord of Baguettes replied to the conversation, which was to explain what the OSR was, that communities with official servers may run non-official servers adjacently, and that they can opt-out of the program at any time.<ref>{{Cite Discord|name=The Lord of Baguettes|date=12 September 2023|server=SCP: Secret Laboratory|img=DisasterDen55.png|access-date=2023-10-01|channel=scp-discussion|quote=Just for general clarification...}}</ref> Shelter stated that for Disaster Den in particular, due to their player base mostly being those that played on the official servers, the loss of the official servers was the same as the community dying.<ref>{{Cite Discord|name=Shelter|date=12 September 2023|server=SCP: Secret Laboratory|img=DisasterDen56.png|access-date=2023-10-01|channel=scp-discussion|quote=...without official status, there was no guarantee DDen would be able to keep a reasonable player count...}}</ref> The Lord of Baguettes replied that while official servers have high player turnover, the size of their Discord servers showed a strong community base, and then cited an anecdote of how another community left the official program and had participation increase.<ref>{{Cite Discord|name=The Lord of Baguettes|date=12 September 2023|server=SCP: Secret Laboratory|img=DisasterDen57.png|access-date=2023-10-01|channel=scp-discussion|quote=Official servers tend to see lots of turnover rate...}}</ref> Their final comment reiterated that those in the program may leave it if they are dissatisfied, and that the stated goal of the program is for the servers to align with what the Game Design Team considers a vanilla experience.<ref>{{Cite Discord|name=The Lord of Baguettes|date=12 September 2023|server=SCP: Secret Laboratory|img=DisasterDen58.png|access-date=2023-10-01|channel=scp-discussion|quote=The reality of it is that partners can leave the program if they are unhappy at any time...}}</ref>
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